Terry's 30 day + water fast journal

Yep definitely food poisoning. Classic symptoms.

Yes, remember 70% of your basal metabolic rate goes toward maintaining your body function. Its the reason that part of my Daily Routine is weighing myself first thing when I wake up.

Glad you are feeling better. Pretty extreme way to break through a weight plateau though! LOL

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Yeah wasn’t worth the pain, even now😄

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@Tenax - Woah! Craziness abounds! From what I can see, you did nothing wrong. She asked for advice, and you gave it. She followed it, and now she’s not happy. It’s on her.

But sometimes people aren’t good at taking responsibility for themselves and their choices. That’s what I’m seeing here. So she’s blaming you.

I think the time has come to leave her to her own devices. Why? Because she is not going to learn from anything you say anyway. She doesn’t want a teacher. She ants someone she can blame for her actions, decisions and problems.

There’s this wonderful saying "Wen the student is ready the teacher will appear.** I like to think there’s a flipside saying to match that: When the student isn’t ready, the teacher will disappear.

Your student wasn’t ready. It’s time for you to disappear. Find someone else who will benefit from what you know and from how you can help.

Just my 2c.

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Definitely spotting a difference. If we went for drinks at the pub I’d be saying “Hey, have you lost weight or something?” :wink:

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t’s 2:54 am Sunday morning. Not unusual for me to be up now. What is unusual is going for a walk at that time of the morning. It’s 15 celcius, just a nice breeze so why not. Summers are too short here…and often include rain. For anyone reading from a non winter clime, you don’t know how I envy you. Every plan I had led to the not unusual notion of spending winters ANYWHERE warm. But that’s not going to happen so I have to take these little opportunities like a warm night time walk which IS unusual for here. And maybe I can kind of pretend I actually live somewhere warm…where I can walk anytime I like.

Even in this little city I live in, pop 55K, a nightime walk can bring interesting surprises. I notice quite a few houses at 2 in the morning that have a basement light on…or a bedroom light. Hmmmm what are pple doing. Then there’s houses with no sign of anyone up, but all kinds of lights on! People with too much money who don’t worry about utility bills? I take empty plastic bags on every walk cause recyclable bottles & cans are like a little treasure…and a big piece of my history. My dad used to walk to & from work everyday…in his suit, overcoat & come home with bottles (from a time when beer bottles were all you could take in to a local brewery). 21 yrs ago, when my daughter was 6 & son was 1 & riding in his stroller, we would walk every nice day in thr neighborhood where new houses were being built & find 75-100 dollars worth of bottles to return every week from jobsites. Things have changed for a while now. Too many houses under construction broken into, most construction companies pick up their refuse at the end of the day. But I always find a few & it brings back good memories.

What else from my night time stroll? One refuse container I see has a light glowing in the dark? wth? I dig in a bit and find an led trouble light still turned on. Would have been something if it had been a cell phone!
I hear voices in conversation all of a sudden. It is 2 in the morning & dark so antenna goes up. Turns out its just 2 (late teens?) guys out for a bike ride. Why not?
The main street I’m walking on has the typical late night drag race. Typical of todays generation, its a loud obnoxious rice rocket…racing a Dodge minivan. Mom would be pisssed!
As I turn into the quieter part of the neighborhood, I see a couple sitting in their driveway, garage all lit up. We all wave…but say nothing. Just a normal late night in the neighborhood😄 Do they wonder why I’m walking late at night with a bag in my hand? I sure wonder why their garage is all lit up behind them & there they are in lawn chairs like its 2 in the afternoon the day before! There is stuff in the driveway…did they finish up a garage sale that day? just move into the house? Should I have asked if they had any good junk to get rid of?
I wander by a townhouse where often I have seen 2 women yacking away at each other from neighboring properties. I chuckle because they can’t see each other from their porches, covid keeping them apart but their friendship continues. This morning, just the older gal is sitting in the shadows on the porch, dressed up like iys daytime. Having a smoke. I quietly say hello to my fellow nocturnal creature. She just stares. Maybe she’s a monster at night.
As I’m about to round the corner home, I see a pile of free post garage sale stuff on the corner of a lawn. Daytime I probably would’t root through it. But its a time when few of us night creatures are out. I have no shame & find 2 perfectly fine Ottawa Grey Cup 2004 I believe, seat cushions. Well…I’m going to grab those! Why? I don’t know. And even as I write this it comes to me. Cushions for my dad’s little fishing boat! I am my dad’s son. Find a use for anything, now or later.

My journal started out as you would expect, about losing weight, food, fasting. So why do I write now about anything that I feel like writing about? Because my weight issues are tied to my emotions which are tied to food. Its all one big happy family.

I just had my first coffee of the day at 3am. Normally a no no as OMG I want to weigh first! But I remind myself “we are not weighing everyday anymore!” so I have that damn good cup o’ joe to start my day.

Was that thunder? at 330am? Yep. WIndow is open & the rain smells so good. Glad I got that walk in at 2am​:upside_down_face::smiley:

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I think you should explore a career as a writer. That was a wonderful slice of life bit.

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Thank you. A bit of “Canadiana”. Lol.

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I agree with @Compdude, please explore a career as a writer, you most definitely have the gift.

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Weight Entry:223.0 lb
Lost so far:59.0 lb
Still to go:23.0 lb

With more enthusiasm then thought, I was intending to join a group in fasting today, but wasn’t feeling it this morning. In part to try to satisfy a question thats been on my mind ever since I read the Dr Fung book. If you’re body is fat adapted & you’re eating low carb but you are eating high fat…and you’re body wants to burn fat, wouldn’t you get better weight loss gains if you’re body has to burn the fat from what’s already in your body, vs added fats? I’m approaching this train of thought with the thought process of a caveman maybe. ie- fat is fat. Eliminate fat! I have done some reading, I’m not moving to a fat is bad mentality. But I am thinking of for a period of time, moving to a keto carnivore diet. I say diet because I don’t believe from a nutrient standpoint that carnivore eating is sustainable long term. By that I mean the purist carnivore notion of meat & water only. I like my meat, but I like my dairy too. And I do enjoy my heavy cream in coffee, eggs, cheese, occasional keto smoothie. I’ve never been a big veggie fan so that part is easy. I’ve done a pure carnivore diet before & while it worked, I know from satisfaction level its not sustainable for me. But a keto-carnivore hybrid has appeal to me.

As I did some reading on the subject the last few days, I came across this:

https://theketogenicathlete.com/what-is-carnivore-keto/

I think the spirit of a keto carnivore journey is here for me, but in many ways its a much different journey for me because a) of course I’m not the athlete he is b) I’m not going to be ingesting protein to the level that athletes do. I can’t afford protein powder & I’m not going to be an “eat as much meat as you want as often as you want” kind of person. I like the OMAD or 2MAD eating pattern and I’m not going to have a disciplined burning thousands of calories in the gym at mentality or lifestyle at 59 yrs of age! So, I’ll make it work for me. basically sliding the scale over from say 100-110g of fat and 20-40g of protein per day, to like 50-60g of fat, 30-50g of protein. At 223 lb, I know at a final goal 190-200lb, I have a fight ahead of me to get there. I welcome any links to good articles on the subject of keto carnivore.

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Agreed that the carnivore diet is NOT sustainable long-term. But, neither is Keto IMHO. The key is managing refined carbohydrates and staying away from HFCS as much as possible.

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Weight Entry:222.0 lb
Lost so far:60.0 lb
Still to go:22.0 lb

A hard won 1lb lost. The reality is probably that weight loss will be slow at this stage of my journey. So I’ll take a deep breath & be patient. That 1lb came with a lot of steps & a lot of physical effort as I was working under my truck, removing, mounting heavy tires…fighting to get spring coils out…and back in. I started at 1pm & being the first time I’ve done this things didn’t go as planned…of course, and I fought with it left & right, made 2 trips to Canadian tire for parts, a trip to a friend who’s a machinist to tweak a few parts. Next thing you know its 7.5 hrs later. I was dog tired, but done. And so dehydrated I feel nauseous. (A mistake I’ve made numerous times in my life & will do again I’m sure!). So I sat on the couch…cooled down after a hard day of work & drank a good bit of water before bedtime, even though I could have just dropped into bed. Thankful I had that much sense as I’m sure I would have woke up with a terrible headache. Entering my 2nd day of keto carnivore. Hamburger with some left over keto asian sauce (was delicious!) and today keto air fried chicken with some keto dill dip to add some more flavour. (Last time I made the chicken it was wayyyy too much seasoning according to the recipe). So I backed it off & wouldn’t know it…not enough seasoning hence the dill dip which I love with veggies, potato chips, some meats. its basically 2 to 1 sour cream to mayo, dill weed flakes to taste & I used swerve to add the sweetness I want (its honey in the original recipe but I wanted keto). It is amazing either way. my favorite dip!

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Weight Entry:222.0 lb
Lost so far:60.0 lb
Still to go:22.0 lb

Didn’t weigh but did measure ketones. Up from 2.2 to 2.7 this week. Off time to measure doing at 2:30am but knew I was still in ketosis. Just my OCD coming out. I will note in ketosis for almost 2 months straight now.

Speaking of ketosis & all things low carb, fat & protein, a MUST WATCH for anyone who wants a great refresher or introduction to the low carb lifestyle is a new movie on Amazon called Fat Fiction. Its memorable for many things. One of the most notable…doctors admitting they were wrong to counsel patients to follow the nutrionary recommendations of the food guide, doctors who themselves suffer from obesity, pre diabetes condition changing their lives through a low carb lifestyle. If nothing else, its more knowledge for anyone wanting to understand better how this all works. Its in large part a reiteration of books like Dr Fungs without having to read a book!

Where I’m at today in my eating is definitely eating a low carb lifestyle…not pure keto…not pure carnivore but leaning more carnivore right now for sure. I still am reading in terms of what is most filling a debate whether its protein…or fat which seems to depend which side of the fence you are on. What both sides agree on is carbs are bad. Then you get into the debate of processed carbs vs natural carbs. One of the things that struck me about Fat Fiction as a noted Dr said, is that carbs are not essential to your dietary needs like good fats or protein. You can literally cut them to zero & no harm will come of it. Which leads me to an interest in trying to get to zero carbs but I have a feeling for me, it would be a unsustainable as a lifestyle. I will for kicks do some reading to see how you could do it, even what I call the perfect low carb meal by a macro balance, bacon & eggs has carbs. I had keto mongolian beef for my OMAD today & eating basically beef with salt only for seasoning vs beef with the flavourings that made that mongolian beef is no comparison in terms of satisfaction. But, I will investigate this further to give it fair due. What I do know is realistic is targeting 10g-15g of carbs daily. I would like to get down to 10g or less until I get to my target weight anyway. Thats where keto carnivore may be of benefit…plus maintaining if not adding muscle. I just have zero interest in exercise beyond cardio aside from things that naturally give me a muscle workout. Working on my truck for almost 7 solid hours 2 days ago gave me a workout I’m still feeling today, I must admit.

Finally, while my weight loss has slowed down, I believe my shape continues to change. One thing I notice often these days and how much they’ve changed is…my legs. When I sit down or I’m lying down, I notice their definition on the outer thigh if that makes any sense. The other thing is noticing the veins in my hands & under my forearm. I tend to have a hard time giving blood because as I’ve often been told, I have “thick skin”. I often wonder if thats just a polite way of saying “you’re fat”!

Finally found a recipe for keto bulgogi beef. I lovvvve korean beef so I’m excited to try this. I will cook it up on my grill tonight so its ready for eating tomorrow morning. marinade for at least 24 hours. I will do for 36 hours. Basically its soy sauce, touch of ginger, fresh garlic, crushed red pepper flakes, Swerve to sweeten & sesame oil. The marinade tastes amazing so I’m excited. 3g of carbs per serving.

Ah the argument against carbs. Just a replay of the argument against saturated fats not so long ago.

The Intuit and the eskimos who live in the Arctic circle live primarily on a protein and fat diet if you want to see what that does for a body. As for carbs, look to Asians whose main staple is rice and who don’t have an obesity problem. UNTIL they started eating a diet rich in refined carbohydrates and HFCS.

Also our gut biome requires a diversity of carbs to feed the wide variety of good gut bacteria. Here’s an interesting video to watch:

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Interesting video and another opinion to throw in the mix. Interesting this guy proposes you can lose weight but get sick from a low carb diet. Myself, I find it much easier to do low carb (which was already a major move for me to learn how to cook much more & a larger variety of food)…than now having to add in to the mix a separation of good from bad carbs on a constant basis. I guess what I have going for me & why its not likely I can do carb elimination when I look at my eating plan is there are built in carbs (not refined) that I can easily consume. A 10 per day target is achievable. Is it enough and for my level of activity? I guess I’ll see!

I remember not so long ago that fasting was considered to be dangerous for your heart at the very least due to the nature of starting and stopping regular eating. While more widely accepted still opinions going both ways on fasting.

I take all this with a grain of salt and am always willing to try different things, filtered through my ability to accomplish them. One of my greatest strengths has always been the ability to learn how to do many new things. My greatest weakness is when I don’t know when to stop and get to deep into the new thing & it costs me. Time will tell as it always does.

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I developed a healthy skepticism of medical opinion when I wrecked my left knee in a basketball pickup game at UCLA in the Fall Quarter as a freshman undergraduate. The docs told me I could never play sports again without surgery (this was before arthroscopic was available to the unwashed masses). LOL.

When I asked what was the chance of success I could play sports again they said 50%. I said, “Screw that”, and did my own rehab. The following summer I was at the point I could walk without crutches and I started running. By the end of summer I was running 10 miles/day 3x/week.

If I hadn’t decided to take my own destiny in my own hands I wouldn’t been physically able to take up windsurfing a year later. I would have lost out on all the wonderful experiences I had in that world for 10 years.

Besides as a computer guy I’ve seen how prevailing wisdom keeps getting upended since I’ve lived through the mainframe, p.c., Internet and now mobile/cloud eras. LOL

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All I know is there’s a lot of people who seem to know “the truth” on the interweb😃 buyer beware!

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Seeing as I got food poisoning on my first take out since April 2nd last week, I got what I really wanted to get, today. Got that Mucho burrito, dammit! And it was yummy.

Now…back to work. Lol.

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I just got my first take out (since February) the last 2 days as I went to visit a friend.
I’m not starting anything till Monday, and the menu I found at her place (hour drive away from where I live) had a fried bologna sandwich on jalapeno bread.

I will definitely be doing that again in a couple of months! I was going to get one to go on my drive home and was good to talk myself out of it. :sweat_smile:

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Good on you! I’ve been wanting a burrito for awhile…and I figured? Wth…I had some sangria mixed with sparkling water. Just about kicked myself out of ketosis but notttt quite. Lol.

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Been a bit since my last entry. Having a bit of a struggle right now but recording for posterity and lessons I’m still learning. After a bit of a weight stick last week, I decided to have a Mucho Burrito. It was darn good. But in spite of good exercise level & behaviour otherwise, I had gained 3lb the next day. Its that sort of bs that I struggle the most with. Wasn’t over calories, was under 100 carbs for the day. Was still in keto the next day, albeit barely. But it does defy logic & the notion you can have a cheat meal on keto lifestyle. It was a burrito for crying out loud, not Taco Bell garbage…or McDonalds. I considered going into a 5 day fast after but mentally not there. So easy still to slip into old mental habits & addictions. For example, had a very good activity day 2 days ago so on a whim stopped & grabbed a slice of deep dish pizza close to home. Then I lost 1.5lb! So of course, yesterday, I notice I have 4 bucks sitting in my glove box so hell, do it again! No weight gain this morning of course…barely in ketosis & trying to learn still, not get angry & depressed about my slipping into old bad thinking. And I have a challenging couple of weeks ahead with son’s birthday, fathers day, lake visit where it will be a challenge for mom to understand what I eat & when. So I really need to make the most of my low carb days. My goal over the next couple of weeks is not to lose weight. I think that is too high a bar. But maintaining my weight would be a big win! I am going to OMAD until Tuesday & son’s bday. Then off on my lake vakay and back on OMAD or 2MAD at most for about 5 days then fathers day feed. I’m hoping I will get at least 2 or 3 days on my own so I could have a bit of a fast but given I only see folks once per year, not likely. They know I have fasted but they find it disturbing so that adds pressure.

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